i've been having a conversation with a young jw on twitter and have, once again, come up against beliefs that do not match up with official watchtower doctrine.
if you like you can read the full thread here (you'll need to click on some comments to open it all up).. anyway the upshot is that this jw, and many like her, believe that only truly wicked people will be killed at armageddon - not innocent babies and children or anyone who "didn't know better" perhaps because they didn't get a witness.
it's as though they cannot accept the obvious injustice of jehovah's morality.. this jw teenager believes that all these non-jw's who survive armageddon will get their chance to prove their loyalty during the 1000 year reign of christ - again, not a watchtower teaching.. i don't really have a question to ask, this is just an observation.
Just young JW's?
Previously stated experience: I asked an elder at a trolley why his literature stated that some resurrected people would be allowed to practice vile things during Christ's 1000 year reign - based on their interpretation of John 5:28,29.
He vehemently denied such a thing was said in his literature - he'd never read that anywhere. When confronted with the proof, his wriggling and squirming and double-speak were a joy to behold.
Elders are as ignorant as the minions they subvert.
in an attempt to disparage a faded jw and to obtain their personal details, he deceptively partially quoted a statement from the jw.borg web site to the new york judge when he wrote, .
"disfellowshipping does not cause family relationships to be permanently lost: "the religious ties he had with his family change, but blood ties remain.
the marriage relationship and normal family affections and dealings continue.
Zeb - I think lawyers do a good enough job of giving themselves a bad name! :)
https://avoidjw.org/en/news/ministers-are-called-for-consultation-regarding-jehovahs-witness-revelations/.
the jehovah’s witnesses branch office in holbæk does not want to be interviewed, but states that in some cases they go to the authorities.. the recognized religious community of jehovah’s witnesses has an internal set of rules where religious leaders can judge on everything from smoking to killing.. this is according to a secret manual for the elders – religious leaders of jehovah’s witnesses – that tv 2 has in its possession.. precisely that fact is a testament that this is a parallel legal community, one of denmark’s leading experts in religious law believes.. and now the social democrats are calling the responsible ministers for consultation:.
– for us, it is subordinate to what god you believe in.
Are the Danish politicians just picking on the JW religion, or do they intend to apply the same pressure to Islamists etc.?
does anyone know how to recover a lost/forgotten password for this site?.
thanks..
in an attempt to disparage a faded jw and to obtain their personal details, he deceptively partially quoted a statement from the jw.borg web site to the new york judge when he wrote, .
"disfellowshipping does not cause family relationships to be permanently lost: "the religious ties he had with his family change, but blood ties remain.
the marriage relationship and normal family affections and dealings continue.
In an attempt to disparage a faded JW and to obtain their personal details, he deceptively partially quoted a statement from the JW.BORG web site to the New York judge when he wrote,
"Disfellowshipping
does not cause family relationships to be permanently lost: "The
religious ties he had with his family change, but blood ties remain.
The marriage relationship and normal family affections and dealings
continue." Paul D.
Polidoro - Associate General Counsel (JW lawyer)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1krDT1sprXO1f2pdIcQUdLfgB-Dz0_CKz/view
He deliberately omitted the opening sentence - "What of a man who is disfellowshipped but whose wife and children are still Jehovah’s Witnesses?
This patently demonstrates that the ensuing information is only applicable to a JW parent. This is nothing short of blatant deception, because the JW lawyer knows that his statement does not apply to the individual being targetted.
according to the resolution of the data protection agency, the information was used for other purposes than those authorized.. the data protection agency has imposed a fine of 10,000 euros to jehovah's witnesses for collecting data from doctors and patients without prior authorization.. the religious institution has a hospital liaison committee (ceh) in each province that visits the hospitals to find out the degree of collaboration of the medical staff according to the beliefs of the jehovah's witnesses, "which is only realization of surgeries without transfusions ", is included in the resolution of the agency to which medical drafting has had access.. when compiling these data, as demonstrated by the resolution, the members of the committees overreached their duties, gathering information without requesting the relevant permission stipulated by law.
the jehovah's witnesses have filed an appeal after the ruling but it has not been accepted.. without consent.
in the document, the existence of data that have been "stored and conserved, and imply the processing of data without consent that is imputed, estimating that they are part of a file, are related as rights basics".
Good news indeed!
does anyone know how to recover a lost/forgotten password for this site?.
thanks..
Does anyone know how to recover a lost/forgotten password for this site?
Thanks.
so obviously the best way to leave properly is fading, that's a given i would have thought?.
however i'm in a situation where i'm not sure what to do... i've just left home, nobody bar my parents / gparents know my address.
at my parents request they asked if i would switch my cards over to the closer kingdom hall.
Cold turkey - definitely. Zero attendance and zero F/S.
https://twitter.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1095514606657851392.
"in the past 12 months, #watchtower has obtained more than 36 unique subpoenas to identify the people who have posted their documents, leaked videos, & images from their publications.
this #watchhunt is a coordinated effort to locate & punish the leak sources.".
I'll bet the org's lawyers are allowed to count all their court time as "field service" in their monthly report.
https://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/juez-cita-primera-vez-lideres-testigos-jehova-abuso-sexual_221160_102.html.
a judge cites for the first time to declare jehovah's witness leaders for a case of sexual abuse.
the justice calls to appear to four elders of the congregation in spain by possible concealment of a crime of rape to a woman when she was 18 years old by her boss.
Western governments turn a blind eye to religious organization's disciplinary systems and practices.
There's a debate going on in the UK regarding female genital mutilation. No British MP's are saying a word about the traditional male genital mutilation (circumcision) of baby boys by the Jewish religion.
Religions are a law unto themselves.
